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malachy c.

it seems your solution (which is essentially the status quo) is merely the flip side of the Lichtman formulation (as you have characterized it). Instead of having owners of technology such as YouTube take some responsibility for the content that drives the success of their business, you would maintain the current system which leaves content owners -- alone and unaided -- to police infringement across the enormous expanse of the Internet. (You do suggest a licensing option; again, parties are always free to contract with one another, but as things stand, the owners of copyright-protected works are in a substantially weakened position given the one-sided nature of enforcement.)

This may be the best of all possible solutions, but remains one I find troubling. For instance, in the present case, allowing YouTube to freely host copyright-infringing works until the receipt of take-down notices does nothing to remedy the harm of the infringement. (Of course one can quibble about the nature and extent of harm, but thats not really the point -- suffice to say I think its wrong to blow it off as insignificant.) The owners of the works would be left with the sole option of pursuing infringement claims against the myriad individuals who wrongfully posted the works, i.e., the RIAA solution. I don't believe this is a path anyone in this debate would care to follow.

In any event, thanks for the heads-up re the Lichtman article. The hopeless optimist in me believes that the Viacom-Google lawsuit may foster quality debate on this thorny issue that might just take us to a workable new way.

Regards.

Jason

Yes, I am explicitly arguing for the status quo in terms of the legal rules that govern the Internet. My position is that the status quo is better for Internet freedom than Lichtman's solution, which would take control out of the hands of users and place it back in the hands of large governmental and corporate entities.

Moreover, I would point out that the arguments you make about "not taking responsibility" for the content that drives the success of YouTube's business can be applied to almost every Internet business -- ISPs, web hosting, Flickr, Twitter, even Typepad (my blog service). So if YouTube has to actively police, control, and approve the millions of videos uploaded to its site, then so will every since Web Services company. So yes, I prefer our current world to that one.

Finally, as to the nature and extent of the harm, I think we cannot take an absolutist position that any harm to copyright is too much harm. Some harm and some leakage of copyrighted works is inevitable and always has been. The only world in which that will not happen is a 1984/Minority Report world where there is absolute control over individuals and no freedom. So the real question is how much harm vs. how much freedom. Thus, my argument that some harm to copyright owners is acceptible to preserve the fundamental freedoms on the Internet. The key is making sure there is a viable business model for creativity on the Internet. And so far, there seems to be no lack of that.

Kaisen

"Refused to take even simple steps that would reduce the infringement"

I'm skeptical that YouTube is not doing enough about alleged copyright violation. Inspecting content seems very resource intensive. I assume the way copyrighted content is found on YouTube is through a search based on its tags. Then a human must determine if the content is in fact an alleged copyright violation. (On a tangent, the job description of that would be somewhat amusing... "Browse YouTube all day and find copyrighted content.")
However, I have seen videos now that remain untagged and are then externally linked. Thus there is no way YouTube can determine if content is even possibly infringing without screening every single submission with a human.

Also, I don't know if we talked about this in class, but I thought service providers who don't look at the content going through aren't legally responsible. I might be wrong about this, but if this is the case, and YouTube content is untagged, then YouTube certainly should not be punished so heavily.

Lastly, I'm assuming someday streaming video will be so ubiquitous, that instead of having physical DVDs, we'll just store our content online. That will probably open up another can of fair-use worms.

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